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Monday, October 28, 2013
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Using Frankenstein as evidence, which is the greater wrong: telling a deliberate lie
or withholding the truth?Are the
consequences the same or different?What
justification, if any, is there for doing either?
Deliberately lying is worse than withholding the truth. When one deliberately lies, it affects the way they are viewed by outside individuals, their ability to be trusted, and it is a poor reflection on one's character. However, withholding the truth, or lying by omission is not voicing a blatant lie. It is simply a "confused and unintelligible answer" (Shelley 74). For both situations, however, the consequences are the same. Either the truth is being infused with superfluous details, or not being told completely. When Justine confesses to the murder, it forces the reader to reflect on Justine's personality and ambitions. The situation is baffling because, "[She] did confess, but [She] confessed a lie" (Shelley 77). Lying, in any form, can not be justified. If anything, lying only makes the situation worse for all beings involved.
Deliberately lying and withholding the truth are BOTH wrong. There is no "lesser of two evils" in this case. If Justine had withheld the truth instead, she still would have been executed and William's murderer would have walked free; her character was already held in contempt by the jury ["Several witnesses were called...and unwilling to come forward (Shelley 80)".] before she made her "confession". The consequences are the same for both actions. If you lie, people's perception of you change because they feel that they cannot trust you; if you withhold the truth, you are still not being honest, which still affects people's perception of you. There is no justifications for both actions. If Justine had maintained her innocence instead of lying, there could have been a small chance that she would have walked free. However, she lied, forever tarnishing her reputation and writing herself a death sentence.
Deliberately lying is completely worse than withholding the truth. A person who forms a lie has no respect for themselves or the people they are telling the lies to. Forming a lie involves plotting but with holding the truth is neglecting to speak on the situation. There is nothing wrong with withholding the truth, however if the truth is discovered there may be consequences. " I afterwards learned that, knowing my father's advanced age, and unfitness for so long a journey, and how wretched my sickness would make Elizabeth, he spared them this grief by concealing the extent of my disorder" (Shelley 55). The nurse Henry, instead of telling Victor's family about his actual condition sugar coats and withholds the complete truth. If something were to happen to Victor after the nurse's claim, questions would arise about the nurse's judgement. Then the nurse would be in a hole because he would have to either say he was wrong or that he was not fully honest. It is best to tell the truth, nothing but the truth and the whole truth.
Disagreeing with the other comments, withholding the truth is way much worse than a deliberate lie. When telling a lie, the people around that person has barely any effect. The person telling the lie is punished if found out about. That has fault on one person. "Why did you confess? but do not mourn, dear girl....... And on the morrow Justine died." (Shelley 78-79. In comparison when the truth is withheld many people are effected. One, maybe a couple or few, are effected but that therefore sacrifices for the truth. No bad is cancelled, only postponed when telling a deliberate lie because everything in the dark always and will come to the light. On the other hand when you withhold the truth, people may be hurt for long periods of time. Victor knew all along that the thing he created was doing all the bad. He didn't tell his family who he thought had done it. Therefore it left his family a lot of grief, mourning, pain, and suffering.
Both of these acts are wrong but, a deliberate lie has a greater wrong than withholding the truth. The consequences are different because telling a lie gets one into more lies. In chapter 8 Justine wanted to be forgiven by her lie because she wanted the lies to stop. However, once one has told a lie it causes the disbelief of others to trust that person again. Withholding the truth never gets one into a difficult situation. They might feel guilty about the wrong doing of themselves. Still one must think if the truth was exposed then consequences are to happen. There is no justification for withholding the truth or a deliberate lie. Justine either way would have a different out come of her situation with the two circumstances
Deliberately telling a lie is worse than withholding the truth, but in the case of Justine Moritz case, withholding the truth was bad. In Chapter 8, Justine Moritz was convicted of killing Victor Frankenstein's younger brother, William Frankenstein. When asked to give her testimony, Justine didn't fully defend herself to become acquitted. "I know...how heavily and fatally this one circumstance weighs against me , but I have no power of explaining it...." (Shelley 75). Justine does not tell the exact truth during the whole trial and ends up getting convicted and sentenced to death.
In Frankenstein telling a deliberate lie is a greater wrong than withholding the truth. “A meeting which he anticipated with such joy, so strangely turned to bitterness”(55). When a lie is told to someone they receive a sense of false hope which could devastate them when they find out the truth. The consequences for both lying and withholding the truth are the same feeling of guilt but lying to someone can give a person much more guilt. There is not any justification for lying but withholding the truth can be justified for sparing someone’s feelings.
To withhold the truth is a greater wrong than to deliberately lie because other people are affected by holding the truth as well as the truth-holder. " Besides, the strange nature of the animal would elude all pursuit... and i resolved to remain silent," (Shelley 69-70). In this passage, Frankenstein resolves to withhold the idea that the monster maybe responsible for William's death. The death plagues the family with grief and the truth plagues Frankenstein with even greater grief. One may justify withholding the truth by preventing lies but it is all the same. Only difference is that the truth-holder is affected just as much as the ones he/she is lying to.
Withholding the truth is the greater wrong; just as holding anything in can cause even more harm then deliberately lying. When a person tries to hold anything in two things happen, first they constantly think about it and will not let it go, then they will become mentally ill and do what ever they believe that will end the pain. "Anguish and despair had penetrated into the core of my heart; I bore hell within me which nothing could extinguish" (Shelly 135). Frankenstein guilt that he bears is slowly eating him from the inside sooner or later he will die or someone will try to help him from this inner darkness. The difference between lying deliberately and withholding the truth is that one can hurt the people around that person while the other only does self harm.
When choosing a greater wrong between deliberately lying and withholding the truth, both are as equally wrong. In Frankenstein, Justine's false confession cost her her life. Frankenstein's withholding the truth cost him the lives of two loved member of his family. If Justine would have told the truth, she had an acute chance of saving herself. On the contrary, if Frankenstein would have told the truth he would have probably suffered a punishment for his creation but saved at least one of the two lives endangered by it. The consequences are the same for both wrong-doings. If you lie or withhold the truth, people around you learn not trust you and their view of you as a person changes. There is no justification for deliberately lying or withholding the truth.
Although both telling a deliberate lie and withholding the truth are both wrong, withholding the truth is seen to be the greater wrong in the text. In chapter 8 both are portrayed by Justine. However her deliberate lie only brought about a desire to confess however her withholding of the truth during her testimony to prove her innocence was a result of her death. Along with Justine, her witnesses withheld the truth as well."Several witnesses were called... but fear and hatred of the crime of which they supposed her guilty rendered them timorous, and unwilling to come forward." (Shelley 75) which was another factor of Justine's death, proving withholding the truth to be the greater wrong.
The greater wrong between deliberately lying and withholding the truth depends greatly on the situation. For example by learning that "... he spared them this grief by concealing the extent of my disorder." (Shelley 55) can justify very little but cause alot of confusion and misguided judgments. Although Henry did not actually lie about the disorder it self he did not tell the severity and therefore any actions that take place based off this muffled truth will not be up to par with what is actually needed. Had he just said there was no disorder at all, however the situation would probably be worst and actions that took place based off that lie would be completely off and counterproductive.
Telling a deliberate lie is equally as wrong as withholding the truth. In both situations the truth is omitted and consequences soon follow for those who were involved. "[...] when falsehood can look like the truth, who can assure themselves of certain happiness?"(Shelley 82). This quote further exaggerates that no good may come from either situation. They are identical in the way that they are used to deceive the listener, rather by telling false information or leaving out the information altogether. As said in the novel, the two are so similar that neither can bring a person happiness and assurance. Therefore neither should be done altogether.
Pondering on the two subjects, withholding the truth and deliberately lying can be viewed as similar. When one withholds the truth, like lying, they are being dishonest and both can result in having a guilty conscience. However aside from being dishonest, telling a deliberate lie is seen as the greater wrong because one is making the choice to intentionally be untruthful, ignoring the effects of their decisions. "I did confess; but I confessed a lie.... He threatened excommunication and hell fire in my last moments, if I continued obdurate... What could I do? In an evil hour subscribed to lie: and now only am I miserable." (Shelley 77) In Chapter 8, Justine is experiencing dealing with a guilty conscience proving that one ignores the possible outcomes, such as having a guilty conscience. There is no justification for lying in any manner of one lying or withholding the truth because of the effect it has on oneself as well as others.
In this case, one does not outweigh the other. Both deliberately lying and withholding the truth are equally wrong. Telling a deliberate lie involves allowing an untruth to physically be spoken while withholding the truth is keeping the truth internally. In both instances, the common factor is ultimately the untold truth. However, there are different consequences and the consequences that come with withholding the truth are much greater. "She was tranquil, yet her tranquility was evidently constrained; and as her confusion had before been adduced as a proof of her guilt, she worked up her mind to an appearance of courage," (Shelley 78). The thought of hiding the truth was eating Justine alive, however, she still pushed herself to look innocent. The mental and emotional toll it takes to withhold the truth is more than most can handle. On the other hand, it may be easier to justify withholding the truth than it is to justify telling a deliberate lie. It is easy for a person to claim they kept a secret to keep someone from getting hurt while on the other hand, it is extremely difficult to justify telling a deliberate lie.
Telling a deliberate lie is worse than witholding the truth. As the saying goes,"the truth hurts." Its better for Frankenstein to keep the knowledge of the monster to himself. If he was to deliberately lie, it would cause him to be less trustworthy. Lying causes the truth to be faded and influemces peoplepeople's opinion of the lier. In Frankenstein, Frankenstein keeps the secret of the monster to himself instead of lying to people about it. He doesn't want to have the consequences of the people knowing about the monster he created. The consequences are different. If you withold the truth you will feel guilt but at the same time keeping knowledge that people can't handle away fromthem. Lying would result in peole giving less trust. The justification for witholding the truth is keeping people safe.
Withholding the truth is worse than deliberately lying to a person. Withholding the truth from someone can be potentially dangerous in some cases. Although deliberately lying to someone is potentially harmful as well, it'd be better than no knowing anything at all, but that is an opinion. Victor held a lot of information/knowledge away from other members in the novel. Which could be harmful. When our class discussed whether knowledge was power, one can definitely agree with that statement. If one has the knowledge to create new things that could be potentially harmful to society that power is dangerous. (I digress) But withholding information can really tie into that because having the knowledge to have dangerous or harmful things can hurt anything. Which further proves how withholding information can detriment society moreso than deliberately lying to someone.
Lying deliberately and with holding the truth are both equally wrong. The consequences of the two are the same and can affect the way you are viewed by your peers. As seen in Frankenstein when deliberately lying and withholding truth cost Justine Ortiz her life and her reputation, “god knows how entirely I am innocent, but I do not pretend that my protestations should acquit me”(Shelley 81). Then in the passage it states “when falsehood can look like the truth, who can assure themselves of certain happiness” (Shelley 82). These quotes from the passage only prove that lying or not telling the entire truth are both equally wrong and will have the same effects on your personal profile.
Both deliberately telling a lie and withholding the truth are wrong. In the case of these two issues, there is no way to determine a lesser evil. As i read @GabriMays mention of knowledge is power, i came up with a thought. Is false knowledge better than no knowledge at all? Though the consequences would probably both be the same, you can justify both with the right reasoning and understanding. Even though Justine tried to justify her reasoning for lying, he consequences remained the same. Though receiving understanding from Elizabeth, Justine did not appear innocent and was persecuted (Shelley Chapter 8). A person can justify their actions with a million reasons but if the person who matters doesn't deem their actions justified then everything is negated and loses its importance.
Deliberately lying is worse because that means your doing it intentionally . Rather than with holding the truth is just not saying anything not telling a lie nor the truth. If an individual lies than their categorized as a liar and they become not trustworthy. Also the individuals morals are being looked over.
Deliberately lying is way worse because lies are false statements and deceitful. Also deliberately lying is lying purposely morally and ethically vile. With holding the truth is like keeping a secret and some secrets are meant to be kept because some individuals rather others not to know.
Deliberately lying is saying that no matter what there is no truth behind the answer. There is no justification in doing either, one should just tell the truth and not worry about backing up the lies they have told. Withholding the truth is just saying "I'm lying" in a nicer way. One can't withhold the truth without lying a little to avoid telling the truth. Those two things have the same consequences because at the end of it all the truth comes out and people find out that the past information was a lie.
Eventhough both deliberately lying and withholding the truth is wrong , withholding the truth have greater weight of being wrong in Frankestein case since he lets an innocent suffer when he knew the truth. Yes I agree she should have not lied but there where many people against her and Frankenstein knew "that Justine and indeed every human being was guitless of this murder”(pg.87). He knew the truth and the consequence for that was that evil kept on going, just like if someone lie the situation will get worse and at the end it will get resolved but the difference is that withholding the truth will leave it in more chaos and tragedy thank telling just a lie. Now agreeing with Kayla some secrets are meant to be kept to deminish the chaos but the ones that will keep peace not damage it.
Even though neither situation is better than the other deliberately lying is a greater wrong. One could say that withholding the truth is worse but it is not. There is a belief that one may feel as if withholding the truth can be justified in certain circumstances. Deliberately lying means there is no truth at all which leaves room for ones guilty conscious to eat at them. The consequences are not the same due to the simple fact that when one deliberately lies they lose a persons trust where as withholding because some truth may have been spoken just not all of it. In chapter 9 Shelley discusses how her grief would indulge in her misery of reflection going to show if one has not told the whole truth will they have a guilty conscious even if all of the truth is not told.
Deliberately lying is worse than withholding the truth. When one deliberately lies, it affects the way they are viewed by outside individuals, their ability to be trusted, and it is a poor reflection on one's character. However, withholding the truth, or lying by omission is not voicing a blatant lie. It is simply a "confused and unintelligible answer" (Shelley 74). For both situations, however, the consequences are the same. Either the truth is being infused with superfluous details, or not being told completely. When Justine confesses to the murder, it forces the reader to reflect on Justine's personality and ambitions. The situation is baffling because, "[She] did confess, but [She] confessed a lie" (Shelley 77). Lying, in any form, can not be justified. If anything, lying only makes the situation worse for all beings involved.
ReplyDeleteDeliberately lying and withholding the truth are BOTH wrong. There is no "lesser of two evils" in this case. If Justine had withheld the truth instead, she still would have been executed and William's murderer would have walked free; her character was already held in contempt by the jury ["Several witnesses were called...and unwilling to come forward (Shelley 80)".] before she made her "confession". The consequences are the same for both actions. If you lie, people's perception of you change because they feel that they cannot trust you; if you withhold the truth, you are still not being honest, which still affects people's perception of you. There is no justifications for both actions. If Justine had maintained her innocence instead of lying, there could have been a small chance that she would have walked free. However, she lied, forever tarnishing her reputation and writing herself a death sentence.
ReplyDeleteDeliberately lying is completely worse than withholding the truth. A person who forms a lie has no respect for themselves or the people they are telling the lies to. Forming a lie involves plotting but with holding the truth is neglecting to speak on the situation. There is nothing wrong with withholding the truth, however if the truth is discovered there may be consequences. " I afterwards learned that, knowing my father's advanced age, and unfitness for so long a journey, and how wretched my sickness would make Elizabeth, he spared them this grief by concealing the extent of my disorder" (Shelley 55). The nurse Henry, instead of telling Victor's family about his actual condition sugar coats and withholds the complete truth. If something were to happen to Victor after the nurse's claim, questions would arise about the nurse's judgement. Then the nurse would be in a hole because he would have to either say he was wrong or that he was not fully honest. It is best to tell the truth, nothing but the truth and the whole truth.
ReplyDeleteDisagreeing with the other comments, withholding the truth is way much worse than a deliberate lie. When telling a lie, the people around that person has barely any effect. The person telling the lie is punished if found out about. That has fault on one person. "Why did you confess? but do not mourn, dear girl....... And on the morrow Justine died." (Shelley 78-79. In comparison when the truth is withheld many people are effected. One, maybe a couple or few, are effected but that therefore sacrifices for the truth. No bad is cancelled, only postponed when telling a deliberate lie because everything in the dark always and will come to the light. On the other hand when you withhold the truth, people may be hurt for long periods of time. Victor knew all along that the thing he created was doing all the bad. He didn't tell his family who he thought had done it. Therefore it left his family a lot of grief, mourning, pain, and suffering.
ReplyDeleteBoth of these acts are wrong but, a deliberate lie has a greater wrong than withholding the truth. The consequences are different because telling a lie gets one into more lies. In chapter 8 Justine wanted to be forgiven by her lie because she wanted the lies to stop. However, once one has told a lie it causes the disbelief of others to trust that person again. Withholding the truth never gets one into a difficult situation. They might feel guilty about the wrong doing of themselves. Still one must think if the truth was exposed then consequences are to happen. There is no justification for withholding the truth or a deliberate lie. Justine either way would have a different out come of her situation with the two circumstances
ReplyDeleteDeliberately telling a lie is worse than withholding the truth, but in the case of Justine Moritz case, withholding the truth was bad. In Chapter 8, Justine Moritz was convicted of killing Victor Frankenstein's younger brother, William Frankenstein. When asked to give her testimony, Justine didn't fully defend herself to become acquitted. "I know...how heavily and fatally this one circumstance weighs against me , but I have no power of explaining it...." (Shelley 75). Justine does not tell the exact truth during the whole trial and ends up getting convicted and sentenced to death.
ReplyDeleteIn Frankenstein telling a deliberate lie is a greater wrong than withholding the truth. “A meeting which he anticipated with such joy, so strangely turned to bitterness”(55). When a lie is told to someone they receive a sense of false hope which could devastate them when they find out the truth. The consequences for both lying and withholding the truth are the same feeling of guilt but lying to someone can give a person much more guilt. There is not any justification for lying but withholding the truth can be justified for sparing someone’s feelings.
ReplyDeleteTo withhold the truth is a greater wrong than to deliberately lie because other people are affected by holding the truth as well as the truth-holder. " Besides, the strange nature of the animal would elude all pursuit... and i resolved to remain silent," (Shelley 69-70). In this passage, Frankenstein resolves to withhold the idea that the monster maybe responsible for William's death. The death plagues the family with grief and the truth plagues Frankenstein with even greater grief. One may justify withholding the truth by preventing lies but it is all the same. Only difference is that the truth-holder is affected just as much as the ones he/she is lying to.
ReplyDeleteWithholding the truth is the greater wrong; just as holding anything in can cause even more harm then deliberately lying. When a person tries to hold anything in two things happen, first they constantly think about it and will not let it go, then they will become mentally ill and do what ever they believe that will end the pain. "Anguish and despair had penetrated into the core of my heart; I bore hell within me which nothing could extinguish" (Shelly 135). Frankenstein guilt that he bears is slowly eating him from the inside sooner or later he will die or someone will try to help him from this inner darkness. The difference between lying deliberately and withholding the truth is that one can hurt the people around that person while the other only does self harm.
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ReplyDeleteWhen choosing a greater wrong between deliberately lying and withholding the truth, both are as equally wrong. In Frankenstein, Justine's false confession cost her her life. Frankenstein's withholding the truth cost him the lives of two loved member of his family. If Justine would have told the truth, she had an acute chance of saving herself. On the contrary, if Frankenstein would have told the truth he would have probably suffered a punishment for his creation but saved at least one of the two lives endangered by it. The consequences are the same for both wrong-doings. If you lie or withhold the truth, people around you learn not trust you and their view of you as a person changes. There is no justification for deliberately lying or withholding the truth.
ReplyDeleteAlthough both telling a deliberate lie and withholding the truth are both wrong, withholding the truth is seen to be the greater wrong in the text. In chapter 8 both are portrayed by Justine. However her deliberate lie only brought about a desire to confess however her withholding of the truth during her testimony to prove her innocence was a result of her death. Along with Justine, her witnesses withheld the truth as well."Several witnesses were called... but fear and hatred of the crime of which they supposed her guilty rendered them timorous, and unwilling to come forward." (Shelley 75) which was another factor of Justine's death, proving withholding the truth to be the greater wrong.
ReplyDeleteThe greater wrong between deliberately lying and withholding the truth depends greatly on the situation. For example by learning that "... he spared them this grief by concealing the extent of my disorder." (Shelley 55) can justify very little but cause alot of confusion and misguided judgments. Although Henry did not actually lie about the disorder it self he did not tell the severity and therefore any actions that take place based off this muffled truth will not be up to par with what is actually needed. Had he just said there was no disorder at all, however the situation would probably be worst and actions that took place based off that lie would be completely off and counterproductive.
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ReplyDeleteTelling a deliberate lie is equally as wrong as withholding the truth. In both situations the truth is omitted and consequences soon follow for those who were involved. "[...] when falsehood can look like the truth, who can assure themselves of certain happiness?"(Shelley 82). This quote further exaggerates that no good may come from either situation. They are identical in the way that they are used to deceive the listener, rather by telling false information or leaving out the information altogether. As said in the novel, the two are so similar that neither can bring a person happiness and assurance. Therefore neither should be done altogether.
ReplyDeletePondering on the two subjects, withholding the truth and deliberately lying can be viewed as similar. When one withholds the truth, like lying, they are being dishonest and both can result in having a guilty conscience. However aside from being dishonest, telling a deliberate lie is seen as the greater wrong because one is making the choice to intentionally be untruthful, ignoring the effects of their decisions. "I did confess; but I confessed a lie.... He threatened excommunication and hell fire in my last moments, if I continued obdurate... What could I do? In an evil hour subscribed to lie: and now only am I miserable." (Shelley 77) In Chapter 8, Justine is experiencing dealing with a guilty conscience proving that one ignores the possible outcomes, such as having a guilty conscience. There is no justification for lying in any manner of one lying or withholding the truth because of the effect it has on oneself as well as others.
ReplyDeleteIn this case, one does not outweigh the other. Both deliberately lying and withholding the truth are equally wrong. Telling a deliberate lie involves allowing an untruth to physically be spoken while withholding the truth is keeping the truth internally. In both instances, the common factor is ultimately the untold truth. However, there are different consequences and the consequences that come with withholding the truth are much greater. "She was tranquil, yet her tranquility was evidently constrained; and as her confusion had before been adduced as a proof of her guilt, she worked up her mind to an appearance of courage," (Shelley 78). The thought of hiding the truth was eating Justine alive, however, she still pushed herself to look innocent. The mental and emotional toll it takes to withhold the truth is more than most can handle. On the other hand, it may be easier to justify withholding the truth than it is to justify telling a deliberate lie. It is easy for a person to claim they kept a secret to keep someone from getting hurt while on the other hand, it is extremely difficult to justify telling a deliberate lie.
ReplyDeleteTelling a deliberate lie is worse than witholding the truth. As the saying goes,"the truth hurts." Its better for Frankenstein to keep the knowledge of the monster to himself. If he was to deliberately lie, it would cause him to be less trustworthy. Lying causes the truth to be faded and influemces peoplepeople's opinion of the lier. In Frankenstein, Frankenstein keeps the secret of the monster to himself instead of lying to people about it. He doesn't want to have the consequences of the people knowing about the monster he created. The consequences are different. If you withold the truth you will feel guilt but at the same time keeping knowledge that people can't handle away fromthem. Lying would result in peole giving less trust. The justification for witholding the truth is keeping people safe.
ReplyDeleteWithholding the truth is worse than deliberately lying to a person. Withholding the truth from someone can be potentially dangerous in some cases. Although deliberately lying to someone is potentially harmful as well, it'd be better than no knowing anything at all, but that is an opinion. Victor held a lot of information/knowledge away from other members in the novel. Which could be harmful.
ReplyDeleteWhen our class discussed whether knowledge was power, one can definitely agree with that statement. If one has the knowledge to create new things that could be potentially harmful to society that power is dangerous. (I digress)
But withholding information can really tie into that because having the knowledge to have dangerous or harmful things can hurt anything. Which further proves how withholding information can detriment society moreso than deliberately lying to someone.
Lying deliberately and with holding the truth are both equally wrong. The consequences of the two are the same and can affect the way you are viewed by your peers. As seen in Frankenstein when deliberately lying and withholding truth cost Justine Ortiz her life and her reputation, “god knows how entirely I am innocent, but I do not pretend that my protestations should acquit me”(Shelley 81). Then in the passage it states “when falsehood can look like the truth, who can assure themselves of certain happiness” (Shelley 82). These quotes from the passage only prove that lying or not telling the entire truth are both equally wrong and will have the same effects on your personal profile.
ReplyDeleteBoth deliberately telling a lie and withholding the truth are wrong. In the case of these two issues, there is no way to determine a lesser evil. As i read @GabriMays mention of knowledge is power, i came up with a thought. Is false knowledge better than no knowledge at all? Though the consequences would probably both be the same, you can justify both with the right reasoning and understanding. Even though Justine tried to justify her reasoning for lying, he consequences remained the same. Though receiving understanding from Elizabeth, Justine did not appear innocent and was persecuted (Shelley Chapter 8). A person can justify their actions with a million reasons but if the person who matters doesn't deem their actions justified then everything is negated and loses its importance.
ReplyDeleteDeliberately lying is worse because that means your doing it intentionally . Rather than with holding the truth is just not saying anything not telling a lie nor the truth. If an individual lies than their categorized as a liar and they become not trustworthy. Also the individuals morals are being looked over.
ReplyDeleteDeliberately lying is way worse because lies are false statements and deceitful. Also deliberately lying is lying purposely morally and ethically vile. With holding the truth is like keeping a secret and some secrets are meant to be kept because some individuals rather others not to know.
ReplyDeleteDeliberately lying is saying that no matter what there is no truth behind the answer. There is no justification in doing either, one should just tell the truth and not worry about backing up the lies they have told. Withholding the truth is just saying "I'm lying" in a nicer way. One can't withhold the truth without lying a little to avoid telling the truth. Those two things have the same consequences because at the end of it all the truth comes out and people find out that the past information was a lie.
ReplyDeleteEventhough both deliberately lying and withholding the truth is wrong , withholding the truth have greater weight of being wrong in Frankestein case since he lets an innocent suffer when he knew the truth. Yes I agree she should have not lied but there where many people against her and Frankenstein knew "that Justine and indeed every human being was guitless of this murder”(pg.87). He knew the truth and the consequence for that was that evil kept on going, just like if someone lie the situation will get worse and at the end it will get resolved but the difference is that withholding the truth will leave it in more chaos and tragedy thank telling just a lie. Now agreeing with Kayla some secrets are meant to be kept to deminish the chaos but the ones that will keep peace not damage it.
ReplyDeleteEven though neither situation is better than the other deliberately lying is a greater wrong. One could say that withholding the truth is worse but it is not. There is a belief that one may feel as if withholding the truth can be justified in certain circumstances. Deliberately lying means there is no truth at all which leaves room for ones guilty conscious to eat at them. The consequences are not the same due to the simple fact that when one deliberately lies they lose a persons trust where as withholding because some truth may have been spoken just not all of it. In chapter 9 Shelley discusses how her grief would indulge in her misery of reflection going to show if one has not told the whole truth will they have a guilty conscious even if all of the truth is not told.
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