Wednesday, November 13, 2013

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Comment on the debate the Monster has with Victor concerning the creation of his mate. What are each character’s arguments? Why does Victor ultimately destroy the creature? If placed in Victor's position, would you have destroyed the creature's mate? Why or why not.

10 comments:

  1. The decision of creating a female counterpart for the Monster raises arguments from both sides that convincingly establish the question of, “Though the Monster is deserving of an equal, can this new being’s actions be assured as nondestructive?” The debate takes a stance that is both logical and emotional with the Monster crying out for a mate resembling him that will “live in the interchange of those sympathies necessary for my being” and extinguish all evil passions he had and may develop onward (129). He sees the creation of someone to identify with as a dire need in the solemn situation that he calls life, while in addition bringing into play the neglect he suffered at the hands of Victor and the loneliness endured. The tale garners sympathy from the initially reluctant Victor, who saw the creation of another “Monster” as a creation of “joint wickedness [that] might desolate the world” (129). He believes that the Monster’s claim to be passive and harmless are lies yet he still agrees to comply with the request of the Monster on the grounds that the pair of abominations exile themselves from the living, an effort to “save” those living on Earth. Victor sets out to make the creature at a slow pace, depicting all of the emotions that weigh his heart and mind down. He realizes that he is so close to “birthing” a being of whose disposition he is ignorant of and who will wield the power to produce a race capable of extinguishing the lives of the living. These thoughts force him to destroy the creature, in a fit of something akin to rage. If ever placed in Victor’s position, the Monster would be without a mate for the same reasons. The Monster cannot accurately vouch for a being that is yet to be created seeing as his own “conception” went awry. A counterpart would have most likely been susceptible to jealousy, rage, and desired for contact with the world, not a mundane life with the Monster. With saying this, the fact that the actions of the Monster’s mate cannot be predicted expresses a fear of the stark probability that a grim future is possible as a result.

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  2. The debate on weather or not a female monster should be created is from the side of the monster, a good thing because he would then have someone to be with and to love him because every one else had seemed to turn and run from him at first glance. Opposed to the monster Frankenstein's stance on the creation of the lady monster was it may not like him and similar to the humans turn in disgust from him or the two might actually fall for each other and then create monstrous children which was worse than the monster itself. Victoria's main reason for destroying the unfinished product was to protect future generations from future monsters. If one was to be in Victor's one would have agreed with what was done and destroyed the other monster and one may have finished the monster because the original monster was alone and needed to be loved by something considering the fact that Victor wasn't going to love the monster.

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  3. Victor nearly finishes his creation of the Monster’s companion, but changes his mind and destroys it. He pondered about what he was doing. He was not only creating a companion, but a second monster to fill his heart with the “bitterest remorse” (Shelley 164). A monster “who in all probability was to become a thinking and reasoning animal [and] might refuse to comply with a compact made before her creation” (164). This new female monster may decline to adapt with an agreement made before she was created. Although the original monster agreed to cease his violence and seclude himself in hiding, she had not. Victor argues that the new monster might become more malignant than the first. He argued that the two monsters might not get along or be compatible, and worried that the creature that already lives “might conceive a greater abhorrence for its [his own deformity] when it [his own deformity] came before his eyes in the female form” (164). Victor lastly worried that the mate might feel disgust towards the monster and leaves him. On the other hand, the Monster threatens Victor, proclaiming that he [the monster] will be with Victor on his wedding night since he broke his promise. Victor ultimately decides to destroy the creature to protect “everlasting generations” from the curse of having a race of demons reproducing, making the human species full of fear.

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  4. The monster's arguments are quite insightful. In this instance, Victor takes the role as God and according to the monster (Adam) it's his duty to bestow him a mate (Eve); the monsters intelligence is emphasized greatly in the duo's debate. When Frankenstein gives into the monster's sentiments he synthesizes his feminine equivalent. However, because of Frankenstein's disbelief in monster couple's good intentions, thus, fearing that the pair would engender greater chaos; he decides to kill the monster wife. I would not have destroyed the monster's wife; I would consider the creature's melancholy and grant him someone to share his pain with. In extension, the monster even stated that he and his potential mate would go live a life in isolation, therefore as Frankenstein, I would find relief in that and a sense of accomplishment because I somehow girded the problem I created.

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  5. Victorand th monster converse and the monster admits that he not Justine killed William. He asks Victor to make him a female mate, he promises that he wont cause any trouble. He promises to leave andnever return. Victor does not wantto. The monster uses Victor's guilt of hiscreation against him. Victor agrees to make the female monster. Howeever later he destroys the female mate before he could complete it completely. He feared that themonsters would cause mayhem and make other monsters. I would have done the same thing Victor did. I would have destroyed the female because I would not trust the monster not to have caused trouble.

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  6. Victor ultimately destroys the creature's mate for fear of them reproducing and putting more people in danger by their destructive nature. If i were in Victor's position i would try to be more understanding and instead of freaking out and destroying the maiden creature i would have reconstructed her but without reproductive organs so that she couldn't have kids. They would have to enjoy each other's company and if they wanted a child they could get a puppy. I would have still made her because the monster himself was only destructive out of loneliness and longing for companionship. It did not ask to be made and mistreated but at the same time there is no guarantee that the maiden would be accepting of the monster at all.

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  7. The monster argued that he needed a mate because he had already endured the negative effects of isolation and loneliness. After Victor destroys the female monster, he argued that if he had carried out the monster's request it would either result in havoc, they may reproduce, or the female monster may not like the monster. If I were in Victor's position I would not have destroyed the creature because of the fear of what the monster can do. The monster also made a promise to Victor that they would move away in isolation and would forgive Frankenstein if he had done this. When the first monster was created he was curious of his creator and mankind which was all he was exposed to. This guaranteed that the new female monster would be just as accepting if the male monster was all she knew. This ensures her acceptance of the monster. I agree with Yaminah Jackson, Victor could have created the female monster without reproductive organs which would prevent them from producing more monsters.

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  8. the character argument was about the4 mate that the monster wanted. if he had a mate he would have left victor and his family alone. victor did not finaish the mate. victor finally destroyed the mate because he thought she would be evil, very dangerous and they wouldnt get along. if i was victor i would not have destroyed the mate because she probably would have been different it depend what he used. with victor destroying the female it caused the monster to hate him and kill his wife.

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  9. In the debate between Frankenstein and the monster, Frankenstein wonders if the monster and its mate will be repulsed by each other. Frankenstein also thinks about if they were to have children then they could cause terror on mankind. "they might even hate each other; the creature who already loathed his own deformity, and might he not conceive a greater abhorrence for it when it came before his eyes in the female form? she also might turn with disgust from him to the superior beauty of man; she might quit him." (371 Shelley). The monster just wants a mate that he can be with. He wants someone who will love him and show sympathy to him. Frankenstein destroys the unmade monster because he could not look or make another creation like the one he made before. If placed in Frankenstein's position I would not have destroyed the monster because I would of had sympathy for it.

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  10. Frankenstein decide to destroy the mate because he fear that in the future the monster will come back to the world with his family and create a terrify even that nobody would be able to stop them. Therefore the only way to prevent it from happen is destroying the new creature. Set myself as Frankenstein position, I would have done the same thing even though the price that I have to pay is losing all the family member because what ever I start I have to finish it. I also emphasize with Frankenstein about the future of human The mate could be more clever, dangerous and more blood thirsty than the Monster. Two of them will bring the disaster to the world.

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